>>1588 >we need to grow >so the answer is to be even more discerning and super careful about who finds this place Just add unwritten rules to the list and you've got yourself a secret club. Hell, even just a few days ago over in /vg/ they wanted to keep the games collection secret to new people in case it gets taken down.

>>1589 >>1592 Gatekeeping isn't necessarily bad, but the people who fixate on it tend to forget that you need a community someone would want to join in the first place. There's also so much focus on keeping people out that the way of letting them in or initiating them is neglected.

>>1589 >Imageboards are no longer as appealing to outsiders as they were in the yearly years of 4chan or 8chan To who? Normies? You are completely wrong because all that trendy now. They've invaded us. Imageboards were always edgy and fucked up before the retard+glowie invasion campaigns especially evident after ALL the good altchans got shut down. Now 4 is a monopoly of dilution and gayness because jannies banned real anons FILTERING and now normies want to larp as edgy and autistic 24/7 because incase you didn't know, it's suddenly "cool" to be an autistic loser conspiracy nerd online FWIW. It's cool to say you have autism. My friends may i remind you again that normie miscreants see all the things we talk(ed) about as third party entertainment to dilute? They don't really care about anything, and they fucked up board culture and now outnumber the organic effortposters with bots. >>1592 >>1593 This board is autistic enough to ward off normies naturally anyway. As long as we keep it autistic we're good.

>>1589 >the feud between 8ch and webring is the most bizarre shit I've seen on the internet No, it isn't. The only people who claim this are 8ch retards who never paid any attention to anything and enjoy Mark's overbearing, childish moderation. It's been like four years since this all happened and I don't know how the entire situation got memory holed so thoroughly. When the original 8chan was melting down, Mark misrepresented and lied about what the webring was to his gaggle of sycophants on 8ch (who, of course, are mostly /v/ users and thus idiots). He did this repeatedly, and even after webring admins (mostly Robi, the ill-fated owner of Julaychan) reached out to him. This made it hard for anons to trust each other in an environment where trust and word of mouth were precious. It certainly damaged the general anon community and I'm sure there are dozens of anons who simply stopped using image boards altogether because they thought everything outside of 8ch was a cynical power grab. Then there's the boards for interracial cuck porn, diaper fetishists, vore, literal pedophiles, and probably another I don't care to remember.

>>1606 >This board is autistic enough to ward off normies naturally anyway. As long as we keep it autistic we're good. This is also a good point. The mainstream furry fandom is so bloated and overbearing that the notion of a subculture within/adjacent to it populated by people who hate furries is probably appealing to a lot of people. All this is to say, if you want to tell people about this place then just go ahead and do it. Don't be a fag and things will probably work out.

>>1610 Didn't mean to sage.

>>1610 > populated by people who hate furries is probably appealing to a lot of people. Say what you like about LGBTQIA+++ size king fursuiters but why people insist they aren't furries is way beyond me. Do you think the legions of people gooning to meowscarada think they ain't furries?

>>1633 >they aren't furries You can enjoy fluffy girls without adding identity mental illness on top of it. I'm not even a native /kemono/ anon and I'm more of a monster girl enjoyer, but even I can immediately spot the difference between people here or on PLW thread and /trash/ furfag threads.

>>1634 I don't think the people you think are everywhere are any more common than the average ultra liberal LGBT supporter that happens to like foxgirls.

>>1592 >/vg/ they wanted to keep the games collection secret to new people in case it gets taken down. The funniest thing about that is that they aren't even the ones maintaining it and the anon from our /mg/ who actually does, said he wanted more people to see and use it. I suspect there are some retarded thread politics involved and takedown fears are just an excuse because the collection links to this imageboard.

Mannuwar check ur mail

>>1727 When cock.li's back up, sure (so hopefully sometime today). I really gotta set up an email client to juggle my accounts instead of just using webmail for everything.

Dear /kemono/, For a good while now, I've known in my gut that I shouldn't be the one running this board. This knowledge started out as a hesitation in accepting ownership from Pioneer, and flowered into a full-on awareness during my first liturgy which has since never left me. Almost daily I asked for St. Christopher's intercession for this place, for wisdom in managing the board, and for a suitable replacement to be provided. What I didn't do was actively seek one out, and this I now realise was a mistake. That said, I don't intend on leaving this place in poor hands if I can help it. Imageboard culture has gone through some rough shit over the last few years, and I'd love more than anything to see you guys thrive and really come into your own. A good board owner should: >Actively protect the board aka not let spammers or obsessive schizos shit up the place. Anons want to feel like their mods have their backs. Both petty tyrants and whiners who blame their anons for everything instead of dealing with retards properly fail this. >Not be satisfied with running an image-dumping board Imagedumps, while they can be nice if your anons have good taste, are inherently downstream of other websites. /animu/'s kemono thread relied on these so heavily that it never fully recovered when most nitter instances died and took their RSS feeds with them. To survive and thrive on an ever-changing internet, you want to cultivate a board with some variety to it, and which makes enough of its own art to be self-sufficient. This is part of why explicit NSFW is currently spoilered, by the way. Being a porn dump would be a cheap way of increasing activity in the short term, but would probably keep the board too focused on porn alone. Spoilering or banning it (I doubt the latter is a good idea for an existing community) forces you to be a bit more creative in the absence of that easy way out, and that creativity could help form this into a truly distinct place if it's leaned into. >Stay firm on fagshit Faggots suck and will abuse any leeway they're given to make the board just like every other generic furfag hellhole on the internet. They're consistently the least interesting part of western furfaggotry and kemono culture. If you care at all about making this a distinctive place and bringing out the potential many anons see in kemono, don't give them an inch. >Doesn't blindly imitate /monster/ >Doesn't turn the board into a front for some chatroom circlejerk >Ideally continues to ask for St. Christopher's guidance and intercession for the board Blah blah blah, you get the picture. I'll probably stick around to drawfag and code, and it isn't as if running the board is remotely stressful (you guys are pretty chill, and as much as a certain someone wants to be the resident bogeyman I mostly just feel bad for him), but for a variety of reasons I really shouldn't be the one in authority over you all. If there's no decent takers and the inactive vol doesn't suddenly show up and promise he'll stick around, I'll probably hand the place off to the Capybarachan admin. Cheers, lads. I wish you all a bright, blessed future with good friends and lovely wives, and will do my best to leave you with a good board owner.

>>1761 In relation to this, here's some suggested reading if you're interested in running the board. >Graeber and Sahlins. "On Kings." >Baghos, Mario. "From the Ancient Near East to Christian Byzantium: Kings, Symbols, and Cities." >Nassim, Nicholas Taleb. "The Black Swan." "Antifragile." >Coomaraswamy, Ananda. "Christian and Oriental Philosophy of Art." >Girard, Rene. "I See Satan Fall Like Lightning." >Chesterton, G.K. "On Gargoyles." >the two-part article on St. Christopher linked at >>1335

>>1762 i'm sorry but what do any of these books have to do with running a board?

>>1761 >>1762 Whoa that's a most unexpected development, given that this board doesn't require much work when it comes to moderating (same as the other boards on our site) >If there's no decent takers and the inactive vol doesn't suddenly show up and promise he'll stick around, I'll probably hand the place off to the Capybarachan admin. Quick note from me as site owner: if nobody steps up now and I'm given the ownership, I will in turn hand it off to the first /kemono/ related person that volunteers with no added conditions, aside from standard willingness to take responsibility and put some effort. I don't want to take over a community and that wasn't my intention when I offered /kemono/ a bunker board.

>>1764 If you're going to run a board in these troubled times, having some idea of what kingship is (beyond the usual pop culture conceptions) and how citystates were established won't hurt. In that light, you can probably guess why The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable and Antifragile: Things That Gain From Disorder are included (I should have given their full titles, kek). Less obvious from its title is Christian and Oriental Philosophy of Art. That one is a collection of essays on pre-modern anon art traditions and their broader, more cohesive conception of what art and the artist are. There's a weird amount of stuff in it that feels familiar if you've shitposted on imageboards for long enough, and if you've ever noticed that weird tension imageboards have between drawfags who sit in drawthreads all day and regular anons, this'll give some pointers on why that is and how to heal it moving forwards. Finally, the Rene Girard book is mostly relevant to the subject of board bogeymen from a broader anthropological and mythological perspective, while the essay On Gargoyles and the two-parter on St. Christopher are more relevant to /kemono/ specifically. I would have liked to have included something on guilds, as my gut tells me they could have helped very specific kinds of generals like /agdg/, but I sadly haven't done enough research on them to recommend a specific book on the subject. Is all of this necesssary reading? No, obviously. It's mostly just there for pointers on how imageboard culture could adapt to and survive the ridiculous amounts of shit it's gone through lately. We need to think a bit outside the contemporary box if we're gonna make it, and as the postmodern west and web devour themselves, we may find that some old ideas suddenly have a place again. >>1765 Yeah, it isn't that running /kemono/ is too much work, or that I'm not prepared for the task or have a lack of confidence (if the spergetry above is any indication, I may have too much). It really is a matter of knowing deep down that I'm not the one who should be running /kemono/, and that the best thing I could do for it as a board owner is entrusting it to the right man.

>>1766 >It really is a matter of knowing deep down that I'm not the one who should be running /kemono/, and that the best thing I could do for it as a board owner is entrusting it to the right man. You've been a really solid BO for as long as this place has been here. What made you change your mind so suddenly?

>>1765 I'll volunteer to take it over. As a proof of trust and token of appreciation the last bo can be vol if he wants anytime, if he changes his mind sometime that's fine too. Send me an email at [email protected]

>>1785 What are your qualifications?

>>1786 I love kemono art and the policy of the board. I come here almost every day so might as well. without you turning this into a job application I’ve grown communities before with my moderation principles and activity. And try to keep a few going still albeit unrelated to this fandom, which is very dear to my heart. Beyond that the free offer of my spare time is enough and my terms are more than fair. Now the ball is in your court.

>>1790 I'm not Mannuwar, I just wanted to know what your qualifications were since I'd never heard of cyberfear.com before.

>>1785 >>1790 Ay, sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I was extremely busy with IRL stuff over the last few weeks and ended up putting it off for way too long, but things have finally slowed down enough to devote some real attention to this. So, for starters, would you mind going into your moderation principles a bit? I'd ask about your (implied) past janny experience as well, but if you'd prefer going over that via email, that's fine by me.

Happy New Year, /kemono/!

>>1905 happy 2025! i never had a racist uncle at the holiday family dinner meetups, but it turns out that im actually the racist uncle at the dinner table new year, same old me i guess

would you guys be interested in a /kemono/ project zomboid server? i hosted one before for /fur/, so i (kind of) know how to do it already. ill probably also post it on /fur/ just so its not completely dead (and thats where the first server began). i really just need to set up a list of mods, and decide on some config settings (which i might do a poll for). gonna try to add a few more models to my mod too

>>1920 Getting involved with retards from /fur/ is the last thing this place needs.

>>1921 eeeeh true, but i feel kinda bad for leaving them out considering thats where i first posted the server. during its stay the only people that joined were artists and there was no (meta) drama. i also was wondering if i should make the server public/visible in the browser. on the downside normies and (god forbid) soyteens could join, but on the upside the server wont be dead 99% of the time

I have no desire to play or knowledge of what Project Zomboid is, so I have no opinion. Do what you want and what you are willing to invest your time into running.

>>1923 It's a very big and complex open world sandbox game where you live in a world full of zombies, there's no specific goal or end (other than death). One of those indie magnus opum projects that has been in development for over a decade and has tons of mods.

>>1923 It's like dayz or rust except it has real survival mechanics.

JANNIES JANNIES JANNIES should i make a thread for the possible development of a /kemono/ zomboid server? i dont want to be an ass and add an unwanted thread. it would just make it easier for people to post mod suggestions and shiet

>>1932 Something like that should go in its own thread.

>>1932 Personally I'd prefer it it stayed in the /kemonodev/ thread, but I'm not very picky on that. /kemono/ doesn't have to be a collection of generals, after all.

>>1935 >>1937 well, the HNIC has spoken, so in /kemonodev/ it will be >/kemono/ doesn't have to be a collection of generals, after all. well it essentially was gonna be /kpzdg/

Having seen what AI image generation did to the kemono thread on /animu/ (and the internet at large) should it be discouraged/prohibited here? Slop is cancer for the soul.

>>2016 What would be the point even? Just hide the AI thread and you will not see them anymore.

>>2016 not really a fan of ai slop (although i sometimes may use it as a reference image), but i dont really care if we have a general as long as its kept in its thread, just ignore it like >>2017 said

>>2016 There won't be any non-AI content from now on. You're asking for the board to die.

>>2016 My position is more or less the same as >>2018 . It helps that the resident AIfag generates some of the best stuff I've seen (which admittedly is not a very high bar) and knows enough about posing and attire that he'd likely make a good drawfag if he ever went down that route.

altchan chads stay winning

>>2048 anon... I... this site also uses cloudflare, like many other altchans

>a chinese furry artist is drawing fanart of a game from the webring This is a very weird feeling.

>>2049 >this site also uses cloudflare holy cringe also whatever 4chans setup had was preventing me from completing captchas, while i had no problem posting here. also nobody could post for several hours a day or so later, which i found kinda funny. i dont know what happened on their end, but i dont think 4chan should use a service that actively discriminates against websites that host content that they dont like. which to be fair, 4chan has a lot of content that even i dont like >>2050 fortnite?

>>2051 >. also nobody could post for several hours a day or so later, which i found kinda funny. i dont know what happened on their end, but i dont think 4chan should use a service that actively discriminates against websites that host content that they dont like. which to be fair, 4chan has a lot of content that even i dont like Unfortunately gookm00t doesn't give a shit about 4chan to do anything about it. As long as money from the site keeps going into his pockets it's whatever. Also nice to see you on here.

>>2052 yeah, i dont know too much meta info about modern 4chan other than some jap con artist owns it now, and that they keep making shitty updates to "fight bots". im too impatient to wait 900 seconds to reply to a shitpost, but a script is not impatient i just think 4chan is in a precarious situation to rely on cloudflare. kiwifarms got shitcanned by them, so i dont know why 4chan would be safe. my schizo theory is that theres an agreement between 4chan, cloudflare, and the feds to keep the site up as a honeypot in exchange for money and info respectively. then again the more reasonable explanation is that kiwifarms pisses off trannies (highly overrepresented in tech) and they complained to cuckflare, even though afaik cloudflare let monkey torture sites operate at the same time anyways, as much as i hate 4chan, i still want a place to shitpost. im glad this place exists though. im technically a furry, but every furry altchan board i have been on is filled extremely degenerate (sometimes literal) shit, and sometimes that one obese schizophrenic guy who blogposted about having furry tulpas. you people (except a certain dogfucker) have been tame in comparison. that and kemono is generally more aesthetically pleasing than most furry art >>2052 >Also nice to see you on here. you from /i/?

>>2053 4chan is the kind of place that can't really be replaced by anything else, but also like 5-10% of it's entire content is shit that makes you wish you could delete people from the internet and just makes you feel worse.

>>2053 >kiwifarms got shitcanned by them, so i dont know why 4chan would be safe kiwifarms got shitcanned for messing with the wrong troon IIRC, unlike them 4jannies would instantly bend the knee and ban any further attempts if xir complained. It's generally how modern internet operates, you either keep your head low and don't push your luck, or you burn up in the talmudic inferno when (((they))) decide to engage SHUT IT DOWN mode. also the site admin gave an explanation for why this altchan uses cuckflare >>>/mg/14514 this might give you some insight.

>>2051 >fortnite? Pears o' Peteia.

>>2053 >you from /i/? Nope just occasional lurker who caught sight of the femcel drawings on here. I'm probably that anon from the zomboid server