>>114346 The MG community would probably still be at least little more vital if 4chan didn't have a rogue mod that helped the pests kill /mgt/ on purpose for some reason.

>>114357 mgt/mge actually declined the least, it was about everything else dying.

>>114346 >>114360 So consolidation maybe? MGQ and MGE are basically juggernauts in MG culture. Plus I think the hardcore "No whoring" condition in MGE is a huge reason why people stick to it to such a degree, MGE fandom is basically a parareligious organization. MGQ has its own reasons to be super popular. Basically it's the only indie Japanese franchise with a significant substance in it. (MGE doesn't count, development-wise it is inferior to MGQ, it's just a bunch of mg profiles with some quick pornoslop narrative slapped on top of it.)

>>114314 >>114226 >>114380 im the guy who posted the writefag thread a long time ago and wrote most of the stories in it. I've been obsessed with AI shart for the past couple years, but most people here seem to hate it (the mge thread) so i have only lurked for a long while. It's getting so good that i can almost gen very consistent comics with it. When it does reach the threshold, i'll probably come back here and make my own comic universe, slowly but surely. I've written a good bit of lore but haven't really posted in a long time. Pics related, they're a short demo comic i made for a very simple character since precise reference duplication (in comic form) is still very hard for OC characters.

>>114380 >So consolidation maybe? That's this board already. It's just that MGE fans don't feel the need to venture out of their own thread, which is super funny if you've ever seen all those lunatics outside of this board ranting about the dangers of MGE fans invading other spaces.

>>114440 Yeah, it's more like MGE thread gets invaded by futa lovers, yuri supporters (usualy the kind that wants all males gone) or ntr enjoyers who cannot survive without their monster girls cheating on them. Like if you want any of that there are other monster girl universes to enjoy. Like monster musume supports all of that.

>>114357 The whole situation was extremely autistic and it could have been helped by not announcing it on Xitter and letting KC come out with his official statement. But that’s just me.

>>114478 >MGE thread gets invaded by futa lovers, yuri supporters (usualy the kind that wants all males gone) or ntr enjoyers who cannot survive without their monster girls cheating on them. Not really, last time someone showed up it was a yuri enjoyer who was politely told it's not wanted and he left without making a fuss. In reality majority of people don't care about the ideological squabbles over fetishes, it's always vocal minority of terminally online autists making mountains out of mole hills.

>>114409 You've been doing really damn well wrangling the AI generator to fit your needs, the results have been better than most others I've seen. Makes me wish Sora didn't go kaput so I could keep tinkering with it, but oh well. The only bit of criticism I can share is that a little more variety would be nice. There's a lot of repeat scenes and mamono to the point where I wonder if they're reposts, but on the other hand, I can't exactly fault you for your likes, and I assume it's another way to fine-tune the generator. >I've written a good bit of lore but haven't really posted in a long time. You should at least bump the OG writefag thread when the mood strikes. I don't want to be the only one posting writing updates outside of the MGE thread.

>>114524 I appreciate that mang. Part of the reason for the samey/slightly different looking girl panels is lack of the character ref feature, and partially the fact that the 2nd image was a misclick and duplicate, kek. Once i get the char ref feature on NAI 5.0 i should be able to do a lot with it using my more detailed original characters. Until then the comic gen function is hard to make not shitty unless your character is a known quantity online. Here's a couple example gens i did for MGE Yeti + random harpy which show off some of the posing and positioning capabilities a bit more. (To anyone annoyed by AI shit, sorry, don't worry, these are my last sloppa posts, im not gonna flood the thread). I'll hit up the write thread sometime soon :0

>>114478 >Monster Musume literally supports all of that It really doesn’t beyond spinning wheels as a harem romance series that similar to everything else, refuses to move the status quo forward. Like yeah you have stuff like the leech girl but the whole cuckfish stuff was a story beat of the mermaid realizing her idea of romance was stupid and then NEVER getting explored. If you look at the 4ch thread it gets mentioned alongside actual slop like Ishuzoku Reviewers because the person maintaining the threads knew it annoyed the locals who now populate /mge/ because begging like that child from Oliver Twist for free art is totally a non-autistic impetus for some weird internet crusade. At least 90% of the time if somebody finds themselves in /mge/ and they mention one of the many verboten fetishes they either get politely told to fuck off or the moderator takes care of it. No fuss no muss.

>>114409 Your post is interesting, because it automatically explains why they >seem to hate it (the mge thread) One part of dislike for AI outside of its own threads is that mongoloids love to spam the shitty generic SD empty poses with the usual glossy skin and fucked lighting, but the other part is that anons are afraid that AI slop would replace actual OC and your post is an actual proof that it's a real threat.

>>114689 fair enough tbh, but ive always been a writer and never an artist, so i don't see it as taking anything away in that regard. If i had big money i could hire an artist for my incredibly niche slop, but i like this as the next best option.

>>114689 >It’s a real threat Or it’s because it was spammed relentlessly about sniffing breath or some other shit and while it can generate images it lacks the soul.

>>114886 That's already covered under >mongoloids love to spam the shitty generic SD empty poses with the usual glossy skin and fucked lighting You can make cool stuff with it like >>114409 or >>114538 but jeet brained mongs poisoned the well >WHOA I CAN PRESS A BUTTAN AND GET {GENERIC SOLO POSE PIC}! HOLY SHIT I GOTTA GEN 1000 MORE AND TELL EVERYONE ARTISTS ARE OBSOLETE!!!oneone

>>114891 You can make cool stuff but this implication that it’s somehow a threat to OCs is weird to me. But you do you.

>>114941 >this implication that it’s somehow a threat to OCs is weird to me. It's not weird, it's the same thing as that controversy around bethesda trying to normalize paid mods. People were afraid this would mean no more good free mods because who is going to put effort into making a free mod, when they can demand money? Same thing there, anons love OC because it shows that there's still someone who cares about their little secret club. But who is going to bother making new OC, when the thread is already filled with AI generated """OC"""? Sure you could try pushing back only against slop and accept quality AI art, but it's safer and easier to just banish AI. No risk of the bar being gradually lowered until the thread is all AI slop. Besides, we have an AI thread already so I don't see the issue.

>>114950 Again, it’s just weird to me. But at the same time this is the same thread that tried to ask an artist if he would make a second Twitter account to post art that offends their sensibilities rather than just moving on with their day. Similarly, there is no issue with the AI thread but I’m going to agree to disagree about it being a threat to OC because if you’re that disenfranchised by a machine aping composite images or stories perhaps you never really wanted to do it in the first place.

>who is going to put effort into making a free mod, when they can demand money? What about the same people who have been making mods for this whole time? Also, commercial software (including games and mods) existed before freeware appeared. This whole "issue" is simply neo-Luddites being afraid their comfy established inner utopia is going to fall apart because of their lack of ability to welcome new tools and technologies. Besides, tools such as procedural texture generators existed for decades. You'd think artists would die of hunger since no one would hire a guy to draw a tiling brick wall or rocky surface, but actually the graphical developers were greatly helped by those tools as they allowed to accelerate their work by a lot. AI is the same in that regard. Some people whine and nag about "soulless machines threatening to take all the jobs from the Real Human Artists" (in the meantime, they're possibly the same people arguing just how ridiculous is most of the AI art and all the glaring mistakes machines make) and others? They look for useful applications. It's a big shame there's no AI for generating 3D monster girl models. That'd help me a lot.

>Neo-Luddites >Established inner utopia I’m way too fucking employed to know what the fuck this is intended to mean.

What's going on with imgbox and wikifag? There was a mention in /mge/ thread but, I can't get it what's it all about.

>>115213 wikifag used to use imgbox to post new addition to the image archive, but it's fucked somehow so he stopped posting the weekly updates and he's waiting for them to sort their shit out.

Is https://mgewiki.moe/ dead?

>>116022 Works for me, are you on some kind of schizo'd up privacy browser configuration?

>>116022 It's not dead, it's behind a mandatory fingerprinting barrier. If you're using a privacy-respecting browser (e.g. Tor) and/or anonymous exit nodes, you won't be able to access the wiki at all. You'll need to allow Cloudflare to ID and track you if you want to access the wiki (the easiest way to do it is accessing it from your real IP from a browser without privacy protections, such as Google Chrome)

>>116081 >If you're using a privacy-respecting browser (e.g. Tor) I was just able to access it through Tor. Ironically it might help him if it's a problem with his ISP or something.

>>116103 I doubt it's ISP, the 403 Forbidden is a server-side response meaning that the client is simply forbidden from accessing a certain resource (self explanatory yeah) Most likely they've had a temporary hiccup due to maintenance or some shit (surprise! Websites CAN do that sometimes!) so he couldn't access it ATM. But. It is true that mgewiki is being tightly cordoned off behind Cloudflare (and AFAIK the site admin has confirmed it on this very board that he ain't releasing the locks since he's afraid of muh bots). IDK if it's just you being extremely lucky and able to access the site from some address that hasn't yet been flagged by CF as anonymous exit node, or if Tor simply allows execution of Cloudflare fingerprinting scripts in Standard security mode which you are using.

>>116127 >he's afraid of muh bots It's about spam and vandalizing from certain group of people that have been shitting all over anything related to MGE for years now. The wiki used to be extremely slow and go down very often before he put the stricter cloudflare filters.

>>116164 I wish certain people would understand that it's not 00's and early 10's internet anymore and admins are not enabling all the cloudflare faggotry just to sell user data to klaus schwab and bill gates. It's unbelievably easy and cheap to shit up an unprotected site these days but very expensive to protect against it without using cloudflare.

>>116164 AFAIK even this board is hosted on Cloudflare, but I've never been hit with the "Just a moment..." blockpost here. Yet still this board has minimal spam and vandalism. Also CF is not to protect a place against spammers and vandals, if you want fags to stop shitting up your wiki, you just restrict page editing to registered/verified users. Lots of Miraheze wikis can not be edited by guests, look at MGQ wiki for example. It would make perfect sense for the MGE wiki, especially given that most of its adepts are zealous fanatics sticking to The One True Canon. Having guests edit it does not make any sense, just get a bunch of trusted people and restrict the editing capabilities to them - and boom, zero spam. >>116209 You really get agitated when someone is talking about Cloudflare and data collection. Interesting.

>>116218 I use the offline version of MGE wiki every time I can. mgewiki.moe can barricade itself behind as many layers of JS fingerprinting as it wants to, it just doesn't matter if the wiki I am reading is on my local drive.

>>116218 >Yet still this board has minimal spam and vandalism Because you cannot post anything with VPN here without allowing yourself to get at least partially fingerprinted, it's just done by the site's custom mechanism and not CF. But I will not hesitate even a minute before turning on stricter CF settings if it becomes needed. Also this shit is really getting tiresome, I made this place for monster girl discussion, all this internet freedumbz nonsense is getting on my nerves and is painting a wrong picture of the board. From now on I reserve the right to wipe any bitching about cloudflare or privacy paranoia talk in general at my discretion even in the meta thread, this was not supposed to become the /pol/ thread.

>>116228 Where can I find that offline wiki?

>>116218 >Miraheze Speaking of them, they have wikis of absolutely rancid subject matter still up even though MGE got specifically targeted a few years ago on some bullshit excuse. I don't trust those faggots at all.

>>116291 It's not just MGE. Trollpasta Wiki got repeatedly deleted (at least twice, I think) for "breaking the rules". I guess other wikis have been subjected to the same treatment, as well. Miraheze is, like most "free" wiki hosting services, a for-profit company and all the content hosted there is subject to their rules. Anything can be nuked for any reason at any time.

>>116291 It’s because of nebulous reasons like child sexual abuse content similar to what happen to the MGE Patreon almost immediately after Boggleboe got released.

>>116307 It's not a very good excuse considering other stuff like MGQ could get kicked because of the same reason, but doesn't.

>>116291 >>116310 It's as simple as people (not) bothering to report it to the host.

>>116310 MGQ doesn’t have a loosely coordinated group of belligerents against it like MGE does as far as I know. All it takes is to report shit and watch the dominoes fall. Which most people don’t do because they don’t have an autistic hatred of a fictional porn setting.

>>116311 >>116324 There's tons of groups of retards like sharty or KF around now, if it was that easy a bunch of other stuff would be getting nuked too.

>>116325 Then I don’t know, nor do I really care to investigate since it’s beneath my notice.

>>116325 >if it was that easy a bunch of other stuff would be getting nuked too. The other shit just flies under the radar, there are countless obscure weeb fetish groups.

>>116285 NTA but Wiki pages.rar on MGE archive/Wiki materials is an outdated (the files are all dated Nov 16, 2021) wiki save, but most of the info is in there. Plus all the translated profiles are stored in the Current Profiles folder.

Anyone else had this shit when trying to leave a comment on AO3? I used to have this when I tried to comment as guest from a temporary mail, but now I'm logged in from an activated profile. This is weird.

>>116483 That happens a lot now. It seems to be random, though it happens more if you try to put in a comment containing a URL.

>>116483 I haven't run into that yet. Might be that AO3 is flagging VPN/Tor exits as spammy (a profoundly moronic approach, punishing innocent users instead of simply banning offending email addresses). Also might be that they're distrustful of any newcomers. This isn't a new practice, some forums have been doing that since, I think, the '00s? Also this might be tied to those "professional graphical artist" spammers plaguing AO3 roughly ever since AI art became reasonably good. Might make sense especially if >>116584 is right, spammers have to add links to their shit if they want it to yield.

>>116483 VPNs and TOR usually get fucky with sites like that.

>>116906 Aside from that one little incident late April, AO3 has absolutely no issues working with Tor. Most possible it's what >>116589 said. IDidWhatIDo has no works as of now, and I'm guessing he's simply new to the archive and the site had serious problems with scammer spammers. The only thing that doesn't work properly with Tor is account creation, you're redirected to fingerprinting page once you submit a e-mail. He already has an account.

Heads up, if anyone is wondering what in the fuck is going on with posts disappearing lately, here's what's been going on: In the past few months, a few very characteristic posters appeared on our board. They all talk about the exact same topics, create the same kind of problems, usually in /mge/ giving their mod a headache and generally rock the boat. Despite numerous warnings and post deletions they continue to weirdpost, at this point I have to assume some kind of foul play is involved. Short summary of what I found out in my investigation: all appeared around the same time all use VPN/Tor with whitelist and a privacy config that prevents history lookup by anyone but system op, even the whitelist passwords look similar all talk about several very specific topics no other anons talk about I realize the vagueposting without pointing out examples looks schizophrenic, but that's because publicly discussing detailed user posting history has been a red line for me, so please bear with this. For me this looks like someone is (ab)using the whitelist to completely anonymize himself and samefag to push his narrative on the board or just create general chaos to destabilize it. There's also a chance this is all a massive coincidence and I sincerely apologize the affected posters if that's the case, the only reason I'm getting involved is the suspected abuse of whitelist system. The issue is not with the posts themselves but with rendering moderation ineffective and making it not possible to judge whether a post was just regular imageboard autism or something with bad motives. I'll continue to delete odd and hostile posts from suspected poster(s), meanwhile nothing changes for everyone else. No new rules, no changes in how the board is moderated. And yes this all sounds weird and I did not enjoy having to make this post but I can't ignore this issue any longer, the (now deleted) posts here were a clear sign it will only escalate if left unchecked.

>>117053 Gotcha. I just remember it getting fucky with me once a while back and just went back to using VPN/Tor for gooning since my state legislators managed to go full chaotic stupid to protect the children, or so they say.